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Ye-old garage
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 09:09 am |
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| Pain in the a-ss brother in law who doesn't live near me is always asking me to do his mot or if he does get it done to near where he lives and it fails, are the results correct. Ideal for everone who got a relative like that, get them to write on the tank in Chalk VOSA that way he knows the mot will be done correctly and if it breaks down with sugar in the tank, thats just because of where you live mate! LOL, Ever one have a good week now
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castrolrob
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 11:15 pm |
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it was in reply to the mystery shopper question.my response(pre computerisation)was to advise the presenter of the imminent arrival of his equity card or words to that effect.for some reason i didnt receive any brownie points.
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removalizer
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 09:18 am |
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castrolrob wrote: have done,the word i wrote bears little relation to vosa however...also costs you any brownie points earned,worth it!
Excuse my ignorance but could you translate the above for me ?
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 09:27 pm |
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If they don't pay you for doing a good job, fill their fuel tanks with some sugar, this will cost some money to put right, especially on modern common rail diesels.
Intersting how you actually know that other stations are passing vehicles you fail, wonder what VOSA do when one station passes a vehicle and another fails it within say a day?
Probably gives them a pat on the back and say's good on ya, council and advise keeps me in a job, nastly that last station, did job right not leave room for council and advise, no good to me as VE?
I recently had a fiat in and failed it on loads like serious power steering leaks, CV boots split, corrosion, and a headlamp light output seriously reduced (No reflection), customer told me that last garage only failed it on the light?
I think some of you worry too much about VOSA sometimes, just because they are VOSA doesn't mean that they know anything we don't know in the scheme does it, unless your not doing what you are suppose to?
David
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 09:24 pm |
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have done,the word i wrote bears little relation to vosa however...also costs you any brownie points earned,worth it!
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removalizer
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:09 am |
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Sorry chaps but I think you are missing my point.
When VOSA are on a witch hunt they have only one purpose, to bring the targetted station down and will pull out all the stops by foul means or fair to get this done.
A while ago I failed a traders car on incorrect brake pipe connections, in other words they had used water pipe olive fittings then took it to another test station who passed it, the fittings were not hidden and were clearly hanging under the body.
This is not the first time they have done this as they also produce certificates without seeing the car.
So my question is, how come garages like this are still testing cars ? when others who I know are reputable get targetted.
I don't do any tests for this trader anymore as we fell out due to him refusing to pay for the test on the car with the illegal brake fittings. Personally I think he will have paid top dollar to the hooky test centre to get it through.
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keithd
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 06:42 am |
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| Crack could well have been under the wiper sweep or they could have been creating opaque edging. I very much doubt they would produce a vehicle in this condition.
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David
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 11:14 pm |
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Hi Guys
This is a bit of a tricky one to answer without actually seeing the screen repair, but if the tester in question has had a letter or anything against him/her, then maybe take a look at section (8.3.1,a,b,d,e) in conjunction with;
In certain circumstances a windscreen may be "safely repaired". If a repair has been done and the tester is not confident that the quality of repair carried out is good enough, then the tester should ask VOSA for the written evidence which "clearly shows" that the repair to the windscreen complies with;
BSAU242 and BSAU251
With respect Testers if VOSA have not repaired to this standard, no excuses, if in the criteria (8.3.1b,e), its not considered an adequate repair and fails VT30
Thanks
David
Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 11:19 pm by David
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keithd
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 09:15 pm |
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removalizer wrote: Here we go, out come all the goody two shoes who never put a foot wrong
I've read what happend to a few of the guys and do feel for them. I can understand anyone missing something from underneath the car or under the bonnet but the topside check has got to be one of the simplest parts of the test SO.....Only thing I could think of for missing these simple things would be tester was distracted by one of his/her workmates wanting to ask them something. If this was the case then I for one would would be blaming myself and no one else same as I would do if I was caught speeding - MY FAULT MY MISTAKE TAKE IT ON THE CHIN
Where you loose your testing because vosa's opinion of a componant or a testers decission of refusal to test well thats another thing altogether one which I feel very strongly about. We as testers are told we have to make the decission yet when it comes down to it our decission means diddly squat.
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removalizer
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:36 pm |
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like I said before we cannot always do the perfect MOT I don't care who you are and this is what VOSA prey on when they are on a witch hunt, a garage not far from me got a mystery shopper visit and the crafty so and so's produced a car with a cracked windscreen all the way across the base and covered it with duck tape, the tester failed it and got penalised on the grounds that it was not testable because it was covered up.
All I am saying is lets help each other to try and counter behaviour like this.
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RFR
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 06:56 pm |
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removalizer wrote: OK now we are back in the real world, a known VOSA car on your ramp will make all the difference to the way the MOT is done, mainly because the offending car will take a lot longer to inspect as you will naturally be more careful.
Hi Rem.........
I know what you are trying to say, but surely its not what should be happening.
As a simple business transaction, if you are paid to check the vehicle and you do not give it it's full attention, then surely you have not done as the customer has paid you to do and so they have a right to complain, only in this case the vehicle will have belonged to VOSA.
What if you took your car for a service and the tech, did not give it what was required, and you found him out, would you complain, I think so. I know I would be upset and would not be happy. Refunds,valets and all.
It is the same thing, surely! or is that Shirley
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removalizer
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:18 am |
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Here we go, out come all the goody two shoes who never put a foot wrong, let me tell you VOSA will do all they can to make life difficult for you, all this crap at the seminars about guiding you and helping you is just a PR exercise to make them look good, what they really want to do is penalise you any way they can to keep their figures up and earn themselves brownie points. Just look at the previous posts from Daz and others will prove that.
OK now we are back in the real world, a known VOSA car on your ramp will make all the difference to the way the MOT is done, mainly because the offending car will take a lot longer to inspect as you will naturally be more careful.
Just remember Gentlemen we are all human at the end of the day and mistakes do happen and a known VOSA car will give us all a chance of staying in business
Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:19 am by removalizer
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keithd
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 06:35 am |
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RFR wrote: If we are doing what we should be, does it matter who owns the vehicle, should we not be finding these faults anyway.
RFR
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RFR
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 11:24 pm |
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If we are doing what we should be, does it matter who owns the vehicle, should we not be finding these faults anyway.
RFR
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 10:45 pm |
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| Nah just write VOSA in chalk on the fuel tank
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David
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 10:35 pm |
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Here is another thought, watch their DVD's and look at their number plates then make a note of them, hang that note up next to computer and check number when placing new record into computer?
David
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removalizer
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 12:33 pm |
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Here's a thought, every time we get a mystery shopper, post the reg no on this forum
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Ye-old garage
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 10:58 am |
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| Be warned now , vosa can bring a car with small defects, ie rear seat belt not working, number plate bulb, washer jet blocked, fuel cap missing, leave the car with you , when they come back if you have spotted all the faults u have passed, if not Look out!, next will be a cam watching us test, maybe big brother is doing that all ready
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Wesley
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 11:52 pm |
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keithd wrote: Wesley wrote: Nah, they doing random spot checks, with Two VE`s
you weren't kidding were you, had one this afternoon only one guy tho using me as an assistant  All went well tho SPOT ON was his words
 Good For You! lol, Be prepared for mystery shopper geezer, with maybe an Older Vehicle or Hybrid? Next! Time of Year for Wallies!...............
Continue to be Vigilent, as Always, regards, Wes..............
ps; maybe some brownie points coming your way.
Last edited on Tue Jun 17th, 2008 11:56 pm by Wesley
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 08:30 pm |
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I think it goes off your first visit as part of this traffic light project, how many things did he pull you on?
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