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GabrielKnight
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Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2008 09:21 pm |
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Thank you to 911mot and castrolrob for your helpful, factual answers to the actual question. I hope that your careers profit from your balanced knowledge based experience.
The rears did fail on the initial test as I expected, but further inspection showed that the shoes had tons of material left on them. I bought new drums first (v cheap), but this made little difference. After a little reading I quickly discovered that the self adjusters were binding. This, with the help of new bearings (what a nnuisance to get in!) solved the problem while allowing me to tighten my handbrake with more acuracy.
After a few hours getting to grips with the fiddly adjusters I solved the problem. Braking now has much more response, and the Clio passed wfc on the retest.
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Wesley
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Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 10:14 pm |
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Obviously A "Minimum Standards" review Is required by VOSA to bring things Forward into This Century?
I`m fairly sure Fred Flinstone would agree.
Wes.
ps; this time I hope they pass it by the powers to be, before sending it to us. (No Plates).
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kev1975
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Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 10:00 pm |
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Stealth wrote:
Hahahaha - just found this from GabrielKnight on the Clio site - waddya think folks.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3637920&postcount=16
obviously shows how thick he really is , lets just hope that if/when he does crash he doesn't injure or kill anyone else in the process .
Last edited on Sun Jan 20th, 2008 10:02 pm by kev1975
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castrolrob
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Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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the mot test is a visual inspection only,if they can see somethings shot then they fail it,if you cant see it then the ministry guidelines go along the theme of"must be assumed to be in a servicable condition"many cars will,for instance,have trims etc obscuring some items(we are not allowed to remove them)+rear brake shoes in particular are not normally visible/accessible.while i disagree that your query is menial i do wonder at the purpose of asking such a question when you are obviously aware of the problem and the required cure.its possible for any vehicle to pass a test with defective components if they still function without visible faults.it is not however possible to claim off your insurance etc with obvious safety defects of which you are aware!
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Stealth
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Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 05:17 pm |
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Hahahaha - just found this from GabrielKnight on the Clio site - waddya think folks.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3637920&postcount=16
Last edited on Sun Jan 20th, 2008 06:00 pm by Stealth
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kev1975
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Posted: Sat Jan 19th, 2008 08:18 pm |
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Stealth wrote: Wesley wrote: Why are You enquiring about menial questions in the Trade Category, Discussions and not the Public Category Questions?
Wes.
Why enquire at all - he or she obviously knows the brakes are shot ......
and then effectively comes on here asking if he/she can get what would amount to a "dodgy test"
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Stealth
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Posted: Sat Jan 19th, 2008 05:47 pm |
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Wesley wrote: Why are You enquiring about menial questions in the Trade Category, Discussions and not the Public Category Questions?
Wes.
Why enquire at all - he or she obviously knows the brakes are shot ......
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Stealth
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Posted: Sat Jan 19th, 2008 05:45 pm |
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GabrielKnight wrote:
During an MOT test, do they observe the visual condition of the pads and disks or do they just test that the brakes stop alright?
To put another way, can my car pass its MOT if the brakes are worn (grinding) but actual performance seems unaffected.
(No lectures please - I'm getting them seen to).
Yes, there's a visual inspection as well as a brake test.
If you know the brakes are worn (grinding) it's only a matter of time before they dont work at all - get them sorted before they dont work at all & you end up hurting someone ffs
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Wesley
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Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 11:40 pm |
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Why are You enquiring about menial questions in the Trade Category, Discussions and not the Public Category Questions?
Wes.
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Wesley
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Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 11:36 pm |
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| Pads/Shoes excessively worn grinding! Testers have Ears and Eyes! FAIL! Wes.
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GabrielKnight
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Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 11:36 pm |
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<If the tester can see your pads>
Thanks for the info. What is the % chance that a tester will look for / see the hardware well enough to assess, on a Clio with factory fitted steels. Thanks.
Last edited on Fri Jan 18th, 2008 11:37 pm by GabrielKnight
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911mot
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Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 11:10 pm |
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If the tester can see your pads are worn less than 1.5 mm then its a failure and the test should be aborted and no brake efficiency readings taken as to do this could cause further damage.
Also you wont be eligible for a retest of any kind so its full test @ full fee again
Last edited on Fri Jan 18th, 2008 11:12 pm by 911mot
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GabrielKnight
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Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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As you can tell from my question, I'm not an M.O.T. tester, but the common riffraff you have to deal with everyday, lol!
I've asked this question at a general car forum:
During an MOT test, do they observe the visual condition of the pads and disks or do they just test that the brakes stop alright?
To put another way, can my car pass its MOT if the brakes are worn (grinding) but actual performance seems unaffected.
(No lectures please - I'm getting them seen to).
Unfortunately I got a dozen different answers covering the whole spectrum of possibilities. See what the plebs said, here: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=294145
So, what's the score? I need real-world answers (what happens, not what should happen). I'm getting tested by the Huddersfield council garage, if that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited on Fri Jan 18th, 2008 09:42 pm by GabrielKnight
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