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volksjim
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 09:48 pm |
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boabmc wrote: what the actual parts are that i am going to have to buy and have repaired
whole car jack up number plates and change car
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castrolrob
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 04:08 pm |
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parking brake lever on those doesnt have a lot of clearance before it hits the trim which is obviously the limit of your travel.most volvos that type had somewhat suspect rear calipers and handbrake cables as a standard fitment-generally die at about 80000mls+.you need to get it dismantled/checked.all anyone on here can do without seeing it is speculate.
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kev1975
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 07:32 am |
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Webbo1989 wrote: I tend to agreed with "BIg E" in that someone tried to help out the vehicle presenter but obviously could not fully explain what was wrong without seeing the car but offered some genuine help and advise.
Just one comment without trying to carry on this debate - Why not mark parking brake efficiency DANGEROUS. It may not be dangerous to drive but if involved in an accident on a hill how could the driver meet the road traffic act and stop at the scene without the car running away - that in my mind is dangerours (any brake that does not work correctly is dangerous)
i always mark brake problems like this as dangerous 
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Webbo1989
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 06:12 am |
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I tend to agreed with "BIg E" in that someone tried to help out the vehicle presenter but obviously could not fully explain what was wrong without seeing the car but offered some genuine help and advise.
Just one comment without trying to carry on this debate - Why not mark parking brake efficiency DANGEROUS. It may not be dangerous to drive but if involved in an accident on a hill how could the driver meet the road traffic act and stop at the scene without the car running away - that in my mind is dangerours (any brake that does not work correctly is dangerous)
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 10:25 pm |
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HERE WE GO AGAIN.... ..ANOTHER QUEIRY ASKED BY A"PRESENTER"AND ANSWERED,BY **** ONE OF US****..WHY DO OTHER PEOPLE THEN HAVE TO KEEP ON SPEWING OUT USELESS INFORMATION???YOU AINT SEEN THE CAR IN QUESTION .BUT YOU COMMENT ON IT AND THEN CHANGE YOUR MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF A DIFFERENT SCENARIO..
AND ONCE AGAIN IT WOULD APPEAR THAT PEOPLE "RIP INTO" TESTERS WHEN THEY HAVE NOT "SEEN" THE VEHICLE..LET ALONE TESTED IT.....
Last edited on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 10:28 pm by big..E.
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David
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 10:16 pm |
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I thought aboput calipers after the posting, but during posting my mind was more on drum brakes like vectra's?
David
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kev1975
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 10:10 pm |
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| my interpretation of the restricted free movement would be that the arm on the caliper has probably siezed in the on position ( like rover 400's do)
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David
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 10:07 pm |
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Hi now there is a couple of interesting things to think about with regards the failure items?
(3.1.6b)The parking brake lever has no reserve travel?
How has that been interpreted? If tension can be felt in the mechanical mechanism, ie cables being pulled against the levers and parking brake lever, you know when you can feel resistance, is that then justified to fail for no reserve travel, even though the parking brake lever has some travel present?
(3.5.1.i) the nearside rear brake lever has restriction of free movement? Now if the cable is clearly incorrectly adjusted, or damaged to the extent that no reserve travel is available at the parking brake lever, then how can one know if a brake lever has a restriction of free movement?
(2.2.B.1g) Offside (inner track rod)steering pivot has excessive play? Here I think the tester has misunderstood the regulation, the inner track rod ball pins cannot be assessed because they are behind gaitors, which is a (pass & Advise), this VOSA training services pointed out years ago.
(3.7A.7a)the nearside rear parking brake records little of no effort? This failer seems to back me up in that there must been reserve travel on the parking brake lever, although it may be towards the end of its working stroke?
(3.7A.7a)the offside rear parking brake performance has not been mentioned which suggests that it's performance mus have been ok, therefore must have had reserve travel at the lever to some degree?
(3.7A.9/10) Parking brake efficiency below requirements? Does that make a vehicle dangerous to drive?
David
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kev1975
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 08:28 pm |
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boabmc wrote: Took my vovlo s40 for mot today and failed on a few things
Anyone know exactly what these codes are etc as some of it i dont understand.
001 Nearside rear position lamp not in good working order (not working) 1.1.4a
002 Offside (same as above)
003(both front to rear) brake pipe excessively corroded 3.6.b.2
004 Parking brake lever has no reverse travel 3.1.6b
005 nearside rear brake lever has restricted free movement 3.5.1j
006 offside rear trailing arm rubber bush detiorated resulting in excessive movemont 2.4.g.3
007 nearside front anti roll bar linkage has excessive play in ball joint 2.4.g.3
008 nearside front (trackrod end split pin) steering retaining device missing 2.2.c.1f
009 offside (inner track rod) steering pivot has excessive play 2.2.b.1g
010 nearside rear parking brake recording little or no effort 3.7.a.7a
011 parking brake efficeincy below requirments 3.7.a.9/10 ** DANGEROUS**
1 & 2 could be bulbs
3 , you need new brake pipes that run from the front of the car to the rear of the car , if you are not mechanically minded & familiar with replacing brake pipes you would be best leaving this job alone .
4 & 5 are probably connected , could be a siezed caliper but can't say for certain without seeing the car .
6 will be the large round bush in the rear trailing arm.
7 anti roll bar linkage , small rod with a ball joint each end & normally easy enough to replace ( 1 nut each end)
8 split pin missing , could be that someone has snapped it off previously & hasn't bothered to drill out the remains & fit a new pin , you would need to have a look .
9 could be the actual steering arm that comes out of the rack , if you have this replaced you will need to have the tracking checked & adjusted .
10 is almost certainly connected to 4 & 5 , siezed caliper.
11 as above.
hope that helps you out a bit & gives you some insight into the problems / defects & what is involved in replacement.
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boabmc
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 06:32 pm |
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what the actual parts are that i am going to have to buy and have repaired
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Webbo1989
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 05:45 pm |
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| They refer to sections of the testers manual - which bit's did you not understand ?
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boabmc
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 12:54 pm |
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Took my vovlo s40 for mot today and failed on a few things
Anyone know exactly what these codes are etc as some of it i dont understand.
001 Nearside rear position lamp not in good working order (not working) 1.1.4a
002 Offside (same as above)
003(both front to rear) brake pipe excessively corroded 3.6.b.2c
004 Parking brake lever has no reverse travel 3.1.6b
005 nearside rear brake lever has restricted free movement 3.5.1j
006 offside rear trailing arm rubber bush detiorated resulting in excessive movemont 2.4.g.3
007 nearside front anti roll bar linkage has excessive play in ball joint 2.4.g.3
008 nearside front (trackrod end split pin) steering retaining device missing 2.2.c.1f
009 offside (inner track rod) steering pivot has excessive play 2.2.b.1g
010 nearside rear parking brake recording little or no effort 3.7.a.7a
011 parking brake efficeincy below requirments 3.7.a.9/10 ** DANGEROUS**
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