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Johnboy
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Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 08:45 pm |
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Just ask the garages in question to show you the 'reason for rejection' in the MOT manual. It is obligotory to have the manual on site, so get them to prove it.
I've looked in the manual and it states that no kickup is not a reason for rejection.
Perhaps the garages in question are a little unfamiliar with the manual (Polite way to say it)
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Boro
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Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 02:40 pm |
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Update: Two seperate MOT stations have both said because of the lack of tick it is considered a fail.
Can you guys offer any advice to take this further?
I was hoping to get this sorted today if possible.
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Boro
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 08:08 pm |
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They havent mentioned that as a specific fault but how would that be tested/measured?
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volksjim
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 08:05 pm |
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| done a couple of these skylines..problem is usually the headlamp lens not allowing enough light through
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Boro
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 11:58 pm |
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Thanks guys. Ive told my garage to give the MOT station a slap. Will post up the results tomorrow, hopefully they will agree with you guys.
Thanks again.
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kev1975
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:11 pm |
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| if the beam image is flat & the bulbs are fitted correctly it is not a fail .
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Johnboy
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:10 pm |
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The headlights do not need a kickup (tick) to pass an MOT. They can fail if the kickup is on the wrong side (imports normally), but this can be corrected with masks.
Last edited on Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:11 pm by Johnboy
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Boro
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 08:21 pm |
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As an after thought. What they are saying is that there are NO TICKS, so if the bulbs are fitted correctly and its the lenses that are not producing the ticks, is that still an MOT failure?
Is there anything i can do, apart from replace both headlights?
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Boro
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 08:17 pm |
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Thanks for your reply. Does this part of what i posted mean anything to you and how would you interpret it?
It needs the ticks going towards the nearside.
Thanks again. Ive asked them to replace the bulbs incase they are damaged or not fitted properly.
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Johnboy
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 08:12 pm |
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The headlights do not need a kickup (tick) to pass an MOT. They can fail if the kickup is on the wrong side (imports normally), but this can be corrected with masks.
As you stated, they need to be aligned properly, so that they do not dazzle other road users, they should emit enough light so you can see safely in the dark, they also need to be the correct colour i.e. white, predominently white (as with the bluey type bulbs) or yellow.
If your lights do not have a kickup, it's because the lenses were designed that way, or the lenses may be damaged (easily checked) or the bulbs have been fitted incorrectly. Sometimes when a bulb is fitted, they do not seat properly in the headlight bowl and can cause beam distortion.
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Boro
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 07:23 pm |
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Hey guys, hope someone is online who can answer this. My car has just failed MOT on the following:-
This is from the garage doing the pre-mot work...
On the failure list it said
One was too high and one was too low
and then said
Both headlamps not in good working order affecting beam pattern.
So we checked them at the garage, we can normally adjust headlamps no problem, just got to line up the ticks, once we saw there were no ticks i rang our MOT station and asked if they would have failed it as well and they told me that yes that is a failure. It needs the ticks going towards the nearside.
Obviously the height is an issue but that can easily be adjusted but the worrying thing is this "tick" thing. Can anyone explain a bit more about it and why it would fail.
These are genuine Nissan headlights fitted to a Skyline R33.
Any help appreciated 
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