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RFR
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 11:09 pm |
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I was told on my last refresher that VOSA administer the MOT Scheme on behalf of the Secretary of State and that the scheme was driven by acts of Parliament "RTA" and the motor vehicle test regulations, and that the scheme is a legal requirement. It talks about this in Sec A of the testing guide and says that the motor vehicle test regs are made up of C&U, lighting regs and the Road Traffic Act. This is why we test some items and not all.  The back of our VT30 states that the inspection manual sets out the statutory requirements of what we check, how, and on what it fails.
The back of our vt20 says that an MOT pass confirms that, when the vehicle was examined in accordance with section 45 of the raod traffic act it met the minimum legal requirements for those items.
Legally "bits" everywhere 
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Rebel
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 11:05 pm |
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"Where Exactly are We?"
Who knows mate - not me!
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Wesley
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 10:58 pm |
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If We are not linked to the Authorities mentioned, and changes to Registration Plates requires Government Approval, Where Exactly are We?
*hit Creek without a paddle?
Last edited on Thu May 22nd, 2008 11:04 pm by Wesley
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Rebel
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 10:26 pm |
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I'm no expert but I think that the road traffic act is linked to construction and use regs, which has got nothing to do with the MOT test.
VOSA's rules and regs have no legal standing, although there are obviously laws which you can break whilst MOT testing - eg, fraud/deception etc.
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RFR
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 10:10 pm |
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Rebel wrote: "There is a legal requiremnet to issue emmision printouts"
Not strictly true, It's a VOSA requirement!
Surely if the scheme is put together by the road traffic act and the motor vehicle test regulations as per the testing guide is this not the legal requirement ?
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Johnboy
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 10:08 pm |
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I stand corrected 'again'.
I always give the presenters an emissions printout, as most garages do. The only reason that I thourght it wasn't legally required was due to a previous post on this forum, where someone else asked a similar question (garage printer not working) and was told that they were not legally obliged to be issued.
Also, I tested a car recently for a local garage, when I handed them the paperwork, they asked me what was the extra sheet stapled to the VT40. I explained it was the emmisions printout, the VTS that they normally use, never issued them.
Anyway....no harm done.
Last edited on Thu May 22nd, 2008 11:08 pm by Johnboy
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Rebel
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 09:57 pm |
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"There is a legal requiremnet to issue emmision printouts"
Not strictly true, It's a VOSA requirement!
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RFR
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 09:27 pm |
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Johnboy wrote: a) There's no requirement to issue a printout of the emmisions test, most garages do provide a copy, but it's not legally required.
b) An mot test is carried out whilst the car is stationary, so it would be impossible to detect a problem that occurs at 80mph. I've come across a similar problem with abs sensors in the past, it turned out to be the tyres at fault. One tyre was new, the opposite tyre was nearly bald, the difference in rolling circumference triggered the abs sensor, it may be worth a look. Also check tyres are the same size, especially the profile.
Hi Johnboy,
There is a legal requiremnet to issue emmision printouts, please see testing guide and notes in inspection manual 7.3. One must be kept by VTS for 3months and the other "qoute" MUST BE GIVEN TO THE VEHICLE PRESENTER. I keep VT40 with mine for 3 mths.
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big..E.
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 05:38 pm |
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Rydal wrote: a) Can anyone tell me if it is a legal requirement to give the owner of the car being tested a copy of the results of the exhaust emissions test. A copy of the emissions test report used to be attached to the Test Certificate but for the last two years I have not been given this documentation.
b) Also if you have advised a test station that the ABS light comes on at speeds above 80 mph and the problem still exists after the test station has issuing you with a new MOT Test Certificate what should I do?
Regards,
Rydal
Its also a LEGAL REQUIREMENT to drive at 70 m.p.h max.
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Johnboy
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 04:46 pm |
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a) There's no requirement to issue a printout of the emmisions test, most garages do provide a copy, but it's not legally required.
b) An mot test is carried out whilst the car is stationary, so it would be impossible to detect a problem that occurs at 80mph. I've come across a similar problem with abs sensors in the past, it turned out to be the tyres at fault. One tyre was new, the opposite tyre was nearly bald, the difference in rolling circumference triggered the abs sensor, it may be worth a look. Also check tyres are the same size, especially the profile.
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Rydal
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 12:17 pm |
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a) Can anyone tell me if it is a legal requirement to give the owner of the car being tested a copy of the results of the exhaust emissions test. A copy of the emissions test report used to be attached to the Test Certificate but for the last two years I have not been given this documentation.
b) Also if you have advised a test station that the ABS light comes on at speeds above 80 mph and the problem still exists after the test station has issuing you with a new MOT Test Certificate what should I do?
Regards,
Rydal
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