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gluther
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Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 11:11 am |
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Totally agree also, in fact, mentioned this a previous post a while back!!
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kev1975
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Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 11:32 pm |
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totally agree with that 
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David
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Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 11:17 pm |
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One thing that is really annoying when testing vehicles is normally only found out when it is to late, after completing the test, the drivers side window is normally opened so I can reach for the brake tester controls, sometimes the door window falls out, it should be a test item to ensure it works ok, then its not our fault for opening the dam thing to do the test?
Edited to correct couple of spelling mistakes
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David
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Posted: Thu Sep 11th, 2008 08:20 pm |
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I have noticed today in the manual that looking in the section on wheels and tyres, the manual says that it is not necessary to remove wheel trims, so then, if a tester cannot see in between the trim and the wheel, and wheel nuts are missing, so long as the wheel is secure at the time of inspection, if the wheel vibrates loose after the inspection when out on the road, its the drivers fault for not ensuring that the vehicle was maintained correctly, the tester cannot be held accountable as it cannot be forseen.
David
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Wesley
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 11:19 pm |
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big..E.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 11:11 pm |
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martins wrote: Does this shed any light?
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2013%20-%20Oct%202001%20.pdf
OK so with the owners manual its easy..But where in the scheme of things do we have to refer to any "manual" other than our own??
AND WHERE DOES THE BLANKET COME FROM...????????? I ain't got one!!
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martins
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 08:25 pm |
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Does this shed any light?
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2013%20-%20Oct%202001%20.pdf
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jonnyjohnson
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 07:29 pm |
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So are you allowed to open this bonnet?
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kev1975
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 06:12 pm |
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that is correct , the bonnet release handle opens the front grille , there is an oil filler , dipstick & screenwash filler behind the grille .
there are 2 plastic screws behind there as well , unscrew them by hand & the bonnet lifts off .
Last edited on Wed Sep 10th, 2008 06:15 pm by kev1975
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jonnyjohnson
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 04:30 pm |
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Am I correct in thinking that the Audi A2 doesn’t have a bonnet to open?
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martins
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Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 11:44 am |
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Hence, as in Republic of Ireland, wheel trims removed by presenter prior to Test. Of course there's nothing to stop vehicle presenters doing it in GB, if they want their wheels looked at properly, but why would they, if it means their car might fail on something revealed by removing the wheel trims?
In Italy they also check tyre pressures.
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big..E.
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Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 11:27 pm |
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jonnyjohnson wrote: A wheel trim could hide a number of serious defects, especially when it is secured with cable tie!
"Cable Tie"...Hmmm!..Now lets think on........."Lightyears ahead".........VOSA allow the "Removal of Covers to conduct a full examination of testable items,so long as unavoidable damage to retaining devices allow access"..Or words to that effect..To CYA.. ..
Lets face it in a few years we will have to "remove" covers to conduct a PROPER EXAMINATION of components..Otherwise in most cases there will be no need to open the Bonnet,because "No components are visible" and the same when inspecting from below.. ..
Mr Cable tie will be even more popular with "Joe and Dodgy Trader"...
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jonnyjohnson
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Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 05:53 pm |
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A wheel trim could hide a number of serious defects, especially when it is secured with cable tie!
So could a brake master cylinder reservoir filled with the wrong oil!
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Wesley
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 11:00 pm |
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jonnyjohnson wrote: Do you not think that today’s vehicles are far better engineered?
Items do not tend to fail and fall apart as they used to, instead they wear at a reasonable rate and present themselves with knocks, rattles and squeaks etc
Doesn`t detract from the missing wheel nuts though, eh?Last edited on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 11:05 pm by Wesley
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David
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 06:54 pm |
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jonnyjohnson wrote: Do you not think that today’s vehicles are far better engineered?
Items do not tend to fail and fall apart as they used to, instead they wear at a reasonable rate and present themselves with knocks, rattles and squeaks etc
Try and think back to the days when you decoked cylinder heads every week, and relined brake shoes, plus all the other problems that kept vehicles off the road, these days vehicles are very reliable in comparison.
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jonnyjohnson
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 04:55 pm |
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Do you not think that today’s vehicles are far better engineered?
Items do not tend to fail and fall apart as they used to, instead they wear at a reasonable rate and present themselves with knocks, rattles and squeaks etc
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KevG
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Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 10:15 pm |
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That sounds Plausible.
Similar figures in aviation.
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David
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Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 09:51 pm |
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jonnyjohnson wrote: Isn’t the biggest cause of accidents due to driver error and not mechanical defects?
How about we do away with the MOT and divert the monies to driver education
Not checked recently, but national statistics in 2007 advised that only 07 percent of road traffic accidents were caused by mechanical failures.
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Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 07:02 pm |
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I'd say that in some cases the biggest defect is ........................................................
the nut behind the wheel 
Last edited on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 07:02 pm by Stealth
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KevG
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Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 06:51 pm |
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jonnyjohnson wrote: Isn’t the biggest cause of accidents due to driver error and not mechanical defects?
How about we do away with the MOT and divert the monies to driver education
Why Do you think the mechanical failure statistic is so low?
Could it be because we have one of the best MOT systems in the World?
As for Driver Education I Agree, For Example, As A driver would you drive a car with Two wheel nuts on a wheel instead of Four?
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