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David
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 09:42 pm |
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volksjim wrote: on average 15 mins..then again i am single person testing changing a cv boot you should carry out RBT even changing a coil spring the general jist of my conversation with my local "arrogant" VE is "if it's not a free retest item then RBT must be carried out"
I thought the manual gave the correct advice when carrying out retests, something like;
When carrying out retests, check the failed items and anything that could be affected by the failed items, also check any previous advisory items.
Can a CV boot being changed affect the brakes?
I suppose one must look at the method of repair, we at our station never disconnect the brakes when changing CV boots, its not necessary, however if the vehicle has left the station for repair and then presented for retest, I then treat the retest differently, you never know what other people do when repairing vehicles.
By way of example we recently had a Rover 45 in for test and the parking brake efficiency did not meet the minimum requirements, the customer removed the vehicle had it repaired and represented for retest, the garage changed the brake pads and a caliper and never adjusted the parking brake lever?
We correctly adjusted the brakes in the correct order, the efficiency exceeded the minimum requirements to pass the test, we did not need to change any parts, but the garage changed a brake caliper and axle set of brake pads, only for the efficiency to fail again, costing the customers money which did not need to be spent.
Do the garage trade need licensing one must ask?
David
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KevG
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 11:29 pm |
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There must be more votes than this? we only have 4!!!!
Kev
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Wesley
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 11:42 pm |
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guess i`d be talkin to her longer, lol
seriously though, play the rules correctly, have the banter and enjoy!
Last edited on Mon Mar 17th, 2008 12:03 am by Wesley
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big..E.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 11:33 pm |
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I mean't 10 mins from login to log out Wes...not like the "good ol dayz"... eh !!Go see a solicitor I bet you get charged from appointment time until you say goodbye to his secretary...even if you only spoke to him for two mins..lol..and thats without a cup of coffee.....Last edited on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 11:40 pm by big..E.
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Wesley
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 11:12 pm |
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headlamp aim, emissions, rbt, cup of coffee, 15mins? plenty.
what about vehicle repaired at vts? by another tester? BS Automotive Services Approval, Independent QC checks on any vehicle irrespective, mot or not!
Monthly mandatory QC checks, maybe more than once! and even time to deliver vehicles and round up afew stray pigs on return journey.
What an adventure!
Last edited on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 11:40 pm by Wesley
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volksjim
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 10:52 pm |
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| this is very confusing here..think someone needs to have a word with my local VE..points being awarded for incorrect test procedure what i have been told is" non free retest item blue sheet and RBT to be carried out and results recorded ..we are watching this from local office"
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Rebel
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 08:30 pm |
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I have been told not to use fast track when retest items require the entry of any recordable result or the use of calibrated equipement, ie - brake test, emissions test or headlamp alignement.
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nicknak
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 06:23 pm |
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Fast pas if no metered test is carried out.
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miket
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Posted: Sat Mar 15th, 2008 05:41 pm |
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so have i got this right.. no rbt no blue sheet ... straight to fast pass yeah?
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volksjim
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Posted: Sat Mar 15th, 2008 04:51 pm |
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| on average 15 mins..then again i am single person testing changing a cv boot you should carry out RBT even changing a coil spring the general jist of my conversation with my local "arrogant" VE is "if it's not a free retest item then RBT must be carried out"
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Wesley
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 11:55 pm |
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big..E. wrote: FULL retest or even partial would take more than ten minutes...MOT only hurts the wallett, dentists inflict physical pain and suffering and still hurt your wallett..".tinsnips" beware as far as VOSA are concerned its not about "making money"..
So How long does it take you to do a brake pipe inspection and RBT then? lol.
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miket
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 10:58 pm |
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| partial retests and "blue sheets", apart from brake roller tests , what denotes another blue sheet on a retest over a fast pass??? volksjims been caught in a right grey area i think? any thoughts
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big..E.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 12:16 am |
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| FULL retest or even partial would take more than ten minutes...MOT only hurts the wallett, dentists inflict physical pain and suffering and still hurt your wallett..".tinsnips" beware as far as VOSA are concerned its not about "making money"..
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Domestos
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Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2008 10:21 pm |
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| £25 nit bad for 10 mins better than dentists get
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tinsnips
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Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2008 08:40 pm |
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| we charge £25 for retest and full price on full test,we still find we do not make as much as we did with the old system, the only thing that has got quicker is doing a duplicate cert (easy money at £10)
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volksjim
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Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 03:20 pm |
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due to a recent visit from our local "friendly" vosa guy..we are now looking into charging for non free retest items due to the time that is involved and is being monitered via vts device..BE WARNED!!!! always issue a blue inspection sheet even on vehicles that have been issued with an advisory on brake perfomance or exhaust leaks...been pulled up for this even a cv boot requires a new brake test seems 10minutes are deemed too quick for a retest on a cv boot and no brake test results put onto vts device upon partial retest vehicle never left the premises awaiting an ass whipping all this hassle for £8.50 an hour
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Daz
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 08:23 pm |
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Free retests here also....
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KevG
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 08:13 pm |
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Jim, Thats exactly what we do.Only one retest allowed of course.
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volksjim
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 12:00 am |
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| we don't charge for retests if vehicle is brought back within 10 working days..as for logging on and off it takes as long as it takes to retest vehicle and never had any problems either from presenters or vosa
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motmac
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Posted: Wed Jun 20th, 2007 09:17 pm |
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KevG wrote: Motmac.
Your right. How is it working out?
Kev
The £10 retest fee is still causing arguments but we have decided to keep it on as we still have to logg on the system and it all takes time.if say 3 retests turn up at once it can kill 30 mins of time so it has to be viable for the station.most people have got used to it though.
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