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KevG
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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2007 03:21 pm

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Weetabix wrote: Was that 'inadequate repair' something that had been done just prior to this MOT test, or had it been done for a previous year's MOT test and was passed then...?

If the 'old' system was in place whereby major item failures resulted in a FULL RETEST, would you have found / failed this inadequate repair even though your other tested missed it... ?

 

What was the inadequate repair ?
 - a plate held on with silicon
 - a plate rivetted on
 - poorly welded
 - thin guage metal ?

 

What was the outcome of the appeal with regard to the other tester ?

 

It was a incomplete seam weld. About 10mm gap on a 30 cm plate.

 

Kev

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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2007 03:17 pm

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KevG wrote: Hi result is Vosa propose to give the tester 40 points and the AE 40 points.

I dont get any points as I had no reason to look at the chassis for the re-test.

 

 

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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2007 03:14 pm

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KevG wrote: I've Just found out this morning that I have an inverted appeal against me . The retest is tommorow (Friday) in York, I can't attend as I'm at a meeting in Manchester.

Don't know what the details are or even what vehicle it is as VOSA won't say.

All I know is that it is a partial retest I carried out , my colleague (the AE) carried out the initial test,

I asked the VOSA rep what happens if the vehicle fails the test tommorow on an Item that I did not retest, i.e. an item possibly overlooked by my colleague, He said I would face the consequences as I signed the Cert.

One to bear in mind under the new re-test rules. Will know the outcome  Friday lunchtime!!!!

Kev

 

 

I conducted an appeal under similar circumstances for one of my clients a few months back.

If the item is NOT an Item that you retested then any disciplinary points will be issued to the origianal tester and AE.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 05:30 pm

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Hi result is Vosa propose to give the tester 40 points and the AE 40 points.

I dont get any points as I had no reason to look at the chassis for the re-test.

 

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 8th, 2007 09:36 pm

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KevG wrote: The vehicle was a Camper we MOTd  on 1st December last year. The items i retested were all OK.

However my colleague missed an inadequate repair to the chassis.

Kev
hi kev.
was he awarded any points? has the vts been awarded any points?

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 Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2007 10:30 pm

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Was that 'inadequate repair' something that had been done just prior to this MOT test, or had it been done for a previous year's MOT test and was passed then...?

If the 'old' system was in place whereby major item failures resulted in a FULL RETEST, would you have found / failed this inadequate repair even though your other tested missed it... ?

 

What was the inadequate repair ?
 - a plate held on with silicon
 - a plate rivetted on
 - poorly welded
 - thin guage metal ?

 

What was the outcome of the appeal with regard to the other tester ?

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 Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2007 02:48 pm

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The vehicle was a Camper we MOTd  on 1st December last year. The items i retested were all OK.

However my colleague missed an inadequate repair to the chassis.

Kev

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 Posted: Fri Jan 5th, 2007 09:10 am

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Thanks MOTman,

Got to ring him at 11.30 this morning for result.

Kev

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 Posted: Fri Jan 5th, 2007 09:02 am

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VOSA rep is wrong!  You can only be criticised for anything that you missed when checking the repaired items.

If the AE/NT missed something then only he will be taken to task. 

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 Posted: Thu Jan 4th, 2007 07:50 pm

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I've Just found out this morning that I have an inverted appeal against me . The retest is tommorow (Friday) in York, I can't attend as I'm at a meeting in Manchester.

Don't know what the details are or even what vehicle it is as VOSA won't say.

All I know is that it is a partial retest I carried out , my colleague (the AE) carried out the initial test,

I asked the VOSA rep what happens if the vehicle fails the test tommorow on an Item that I did not retest, i.e. an item possibly overlooked by my colleague, He said I would face the consequences as I signed the Cert.

One to bear in mind under the new re-test rules. Will know the outcome  Friday lunchtime!!!!

Kev

Last edited on Thu Jan 4th, 2007 07:53 pm by KevG


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