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paul20v
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 09:11 am |
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MOTman wrote: While you have received a 20 pts score, this will not be held against you or the boss (AE). VOSA have to get above 30 pts to formally discipline you, therefore this is really nothing more than a slapped wrist incident.
While slightly irritating I know, ignore it!
To expect NTs to fail this and inform the customer, who will then remove it and replace it 5 mins later (after 're-test') is a waste of time and effort and probably cost you a lost customer..................
While rules are rules, why can't they and us use discretion in such cases?
i understand what your saying if it was just the points it would not matter , its the fact they say on the letter there coming back again for another assesment so thats another 2 hours testing lost , and no matter how you look at it a i know all tests should be perfect but the fact there is another visit iminent puts pressure on the general mot enviroment ,daft i know but its like being 16 again and having your work checked all the time . just leave me work i am a good tester find testers that do major things wrong aaaghh
Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 09:11 am by paul20v
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MOTman
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:55 am |
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While you have received a 20 pts score, this will not be held against you or the boss (AE). VOSA have to get above 30 pts to formally discipline you, therefore this is really nothing more than a slapped wrist incident.
While slightly irritating I know, ignore it!
To expect NTs to fail this and inform the customer, who will then remove it and replace it 5 mins later (after 're-test') is a waste of time and effort and probably cost you a lost customer..................
While rules are rules, why can't they and us use discretion in such cases?
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paul20v
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 10:55 pm |
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Rebel wrote: I can understand your frustration, but look at it another way -
If that's all they could get you for, you were probably quite lucky.
If I were to fail cars for such a minor point my boss would probably give me a beating for losing him customers!
When I am presented with danglies I normally wedge them behind or above the mirror.
i normally take them off but sods law , i did not 
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911mot
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 10:31 pm |
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Just so you know you're not alone, my mate got twenty points for a whipsnade zoo sticker encroaching the swept area just above the tax disc on a Chyrsler Voyager. Yup, about 5 feet from the driver
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Rebel
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 09:29 pm |
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I can understand your frustration, but look at it another way -
If that's all they could get you for, you were probably quite lucky.
If I were to fail cars for such a minor point my boss would probably give me a beating for losing him customers!
When I am presented with danglies I normally wedge them behind or above the mirror.
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paul20v
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 08:35 pm |
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i had a visit and they took an eternity to test the car i had just finished ,
and i got stung for 20 points for a fluffy bl*$dy dice on the mirror which i was asked wether it had been tested with them being there and did not lie i said yes and was then asked why it was not failed , what can you say! , so they said you may have a letter and a week letter bang 20 points for me and 20 for the boss, nothing else found on the test at all typical , my argument is we have always been told if your not sure about an issue look at testers guide were in the guide does it say a object hanging from a mirror is a fail , as its not even attached to the screen , so at what point in the car does something hanging not become a fail in the drivers view , when you can stick an extra mirror any where you like , or a taxi sign as long as it does not excessively obstruct the drivers view , and the passengers visor can hang down and block the view too , the dice by the way measured 50mm square each , i dont agree with the dice but it should be all or nothing not one rule for one thing then another rule for something else
from a rather annoyed nt
rant over
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kev1975
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Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 06:31 pm |
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| we have had our visit today , seemed to go well enough , couple of minor points to sort out but generally ok.
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nicknak
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Posted: Sun Dec 2nd, 2007 11:21 am |
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Was it you area ve that did it?
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Stealth
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Posted: Sun Dec 2nd, 2007 08:53 am |
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Daz wrote: Forgot to say he left the garage at 1.30.......................He was then sat in his car with the other guy he was with until 4.15....
I was with him for 2 hrs and my boss was with him for 2hrs...then a joint hr with the both of us.....
Your VE was probably being validated/QA checked for consistency. 
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reme101
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Posted: Sat Dec 1st, 2007 06:45 pm |
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I had one guy turn up at about 10 am, he left at about 2.30 pm.
My AE was off and i had just been given the roll of AE delegate !!!!
I think i bluffed my way through the interview, he found that the pricw list in the viewing area out of date and that was all
THANK GOD ITS OVER
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nicknak
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Posted: Sat Dec 1st, 2007 01:25 am |
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Thats ridiculus, how can they justify that I wonder.
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Daz
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 08:35 pm |
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Forgot to say he left the garage at 1.30.......................He was then sat in his car with the other guy he was with until 4.15....
I was with him for 2 hrs and my boss was with him for 2hrs...then a joint hr with the both of us.....
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nicknak
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 05:10 pm |
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WOW why so long did he fall asleep?
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Daz
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 10:59 pm |
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Ours arrived at 8.30 and left at 1.30....Seemed like an eternity the time they were there...
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prestontest
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 09:36 pm |
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| no just under 2 hours
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nicknak
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 09:30 pm |
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Did it take 3 hours? seems a long time.
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prestontest
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 09:24 pm |
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| one of them was monitoring the other!!!
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nicknak
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 08:54 pm |
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Two people did they say why two??
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prestontest
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 08:44 pm |
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so i just finished a test and parked the car in the car park and with horror found 2 vosa people just getting out of there vehicles
they introduced themselves and asked to see the vts device
they said it should take about 3 hours
they interviewed my AE and then i got interviewed for about 20 mins and a few testing questions.
after about 2 hours they left leaving a list of 8 minor items to rectify and once rectified we had to fax the completed list to our local office
in my opinion it was painless
any body else had good visits??
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